Tournantes

abu afak, Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003, 03:17 (vor 7874 Tagen)

Janet Albrechtsen: Talking race not racism

17jul02

THE French call it tournantes or "take your turn"
- the French term for the pack-rape of white girls
by young Muslim men.

For 20 years the French ignored the ethnic causes
of these barbaric crimes for fear of offending
multicultural man. Along the way, more innocent
young girls were pack-raped. Xenophobia divided
communities. And finally, voters punished a
Centre-Left government for assuming that the
electorate was not grown up enough to discuss race
without being racist.

Last year Sylvie Lotteau, a magistrate from
Bobigny, a northern Paris suburb, described
tournantes: "Their technique was to pick up a
young girl - a white girl - and once she had
become the girlfriend of one of the members, he
would allow his mates to make use of her."

Now it´s in Australia. Last week two Muslim
brothers were found guilty of the gang-rape of a
young Australian girl. The victim knew one of the
brothers. She was invited for a drive but taken to
a secluded park and gang-raped while 14 Muslim
boys watched.

Racially motivated gang-rape first hit the radar
screen in August last year. After the first trial,
ethnic leaders such as Sheik Tajedinne Hamed el
Hilaly, imam at Lakemba mosque, said the ethnicity
of the rapists was irrelevant and simply incited
racist attacks on Muslims.

But the Muslim community flogged the wrong racists
- those Muslim rapists played the race card in the
most horrific and demeaning way, taunting victims
with "you deserve it because you´re Australian"
and threats to "f--- you Leb style".

And when the judge in the first trial, Megan
Latham, tried to douse the flames in an
increasingly heated debate about ethnic crime with
her gratuitous comments about there being "no
racial element", she simply turned up the heat.

Since then, evidence on ethnicity-based gang-rapes
has mounted. Horrific attacks across Sydney´s
southwest reveal the same modus operandi as the
French tournantes. Our reaction? Like the French,
we pander to sensitivities about race and cultural
issues. And so we extend the social and political
nightmare of race-based gang-rape.

A year ago the barbaric French phenomenon looked
vaguely relevant. Now it looks scary and
prophetic. When 11 young Muslim men were accused
of pack raping a 14-year-old French girl in a
cellar, politicians, judges and sociologists
finally began to expose and explore the terror of
tournantes.

"It´s the group effect. They can´t let themselves
down in front of their friends, who are urging
them to commit the act," said a police commander
of a northern Paris suburb.

Pack-rape of white girls is an initiation rite of
passage for a small section of young male Muslim
youth, said Jean-Jacques Rassial, a
psychotherapist at Villetaneuse University.
"Fraternal bonding now dominates. It is the law of
the gang, shorn of any sexual morals," he said.

Denmark presents a similar story. Last year,
Flemming Balvig, a criminologist at Copenhagen
University, confirmed the French experience of
this barbaric rite of passage into manhood for
some of these young men....""

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/printpage/0,5
942,4718201,00.html

Tournantes

Duni, Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003, 20:29 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ abu afak

why do these ladies associate with camelf##ers in
the 1st place, do they have no honor ?

Tournantes

Kofi The Kannibal, Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003, 20:36 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ Duni

http://www.news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=1137822003

I don´t want to turn the victims into the
perpretators but what did those women expect when
they had sex with Mohammed Dica? One just doesn´t
have sex with a man from a culture that deeply
hates and despises women. Of course that does not
free Mr. Dica and his ilk from responsibility.

Here´s a quote from a woman whom I admired
inordinately, the late Queen Elizabeth the Queen
Mother.

She said, in a not widely published interview,
about "Dodi" Fayed, her ex-granddaughter-in law´s
alleged lover, that he was a man (I quote from
memory) "in whose company no Christian woman ought
to be seen, not even one of such a doubtful
reputation."

I rest my case.

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shorteyed fools, Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2003, 12:55 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ Kofi The Kannibal

Kofi The Kannibal schrieb:

She said, in a not widely published interview,
about "Dodi" Fayed, her ex-granddaughter-in law´s
alleged lover, that he was a man (I quote from
memory) "in whose company no Christian woman ought
to be seen, not even one of such a doubtful
reputation."


http://www.iht.com/articles/115172.html

Behind any religious movement, be it Christian, or
Muslim, or Jewish lies more than meets the eye. If
you fail to regard the struggle for power lying
behind such statements you are just

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Heiner, Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2003, 15:57 (vor 7872 Tagen) @ shorteyed fools

mer waas es nedd, mer munggelds nor !

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tictoc, Samstag, 25. Oktober 2003, 21:25 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ abu afak

ASK THE IMAM -- ISLAMIC Q&A ONLINE

http://www.islam.tc/ask-imam/view.php?q=2805

Could you please give me a detailed analysis of
what a Virgin women should do after being raped.

Please could you tell me if the Virgin female
should perform any special prayers, fast etc.
JazakAllah for your advise. 2)Has she lost her
Vaginity as she was raped? 3)has she also lost her
blessings?

Answer 2805

If a female was raped due to her not maintaining
the laws of Hijaab, she is partly to be blamed as
the rapist will be considered as being seduced by
her revealing form and shape. She should make
Tawbah (sincerely repent) by also adhering to the
laws of Hijaab.

and Allah Ta´ala Knows Best

Mufti Ebrahim Desai
FATWA DEPT.

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Abu Afak@Cont´d, Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2003, 10:17 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ abu afak

Pipes wrote of the nore than a tear ago to ctries
of ´Racism´... No more.

Something Rotten in Denmark?
by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard
New York Post
August 27, 2002
German version of this item
A Muslim group in Denmark announced a few days ago
that a $30,000 bounty would be paid for the murder
of several prominent Danish Jews, a threat that
garnered wide international notice. Less well
known is that this is just one problem associated
with Denmark´s approximately 200,000 Muslim
immigrants. The key issue is that many of them
show little desire to fit into their adopted
country.

For years, Danes lauded multiculturalism and
insisted they had no problem with the Muslim
customs - until one day they found that they did.
Some major issues:

* Living on the dole: Third-world immigrants -
most of them Muslims from countries such as
Turkey, Somalia, Pakistan, Lebanon and Iraq -
constitute 5 percent of the population but consume
upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending.

* Engaging in crime: Muslims are only 4 percent of
Denmark´s 5.4 million people but make up a
majority of the country´s convicted rapists, an
especially combustible issue given that
practically all the female victims are non-Muslim.
Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in
other crimes.

* Self-imposed isolation: Over time, as Muslim
immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to
mix with the indigenous population. A recent
survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim
immigrants would readily marry a Dane.

* Importing unacceptable customs: Forced marriages
- promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a
male cousin in the home country, then compelling
her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death - are
one problem.

Another is threats to kill Muslims who convert out
of Islam. One Kurdish convert to Christianity, who
went public to explain why she had changed
religion, felt the need to hide her face and
conceal her identity, fearing for her life.

* Fomenting anti-Semitism: Muslim violence
threatens Denmark´s approximately 6,000 Jews, who
increasingly depend on police protection. Jewish
parents were told by one school principal that she
could not guarantee their children´s safety and
were advised to attend another institution.
Anti-Israel marches have turned into anti-Jewish
riots. One organization, Hizb-ut-Tahrir, openly
calls on Muslims to "kill all Jews . . . wherever
you find them."

* Seeking Islamic law: Muslim leaders openly
declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once
Denmark´s Muslim population grows large enough - a
not-that-remote prospect. If present trends
persist, one sociologist estimates, every third
inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be
Muslim...""

http://www.danielpipes.org/article/450

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Duni, Sonntag, 26. Oktober 2003, 10:46 (vor 7873 Tagen) @ Abu Afak@Cont´d

Iranian spies roam Britain ´to locate synagogues
for attack by al-Qa´eda´
By David Bamber, Home Affairs Editor
(Filed: 26/10/2003)


Iranian spies have been photographing synagogues
and other Jewish buildings in Britain, seemingly
in preparation for terrorist attacks.

MI5, the security service, and Special Branch
officers have discovered Iranians photographing
such buildings in London and the Home Counties for
some time, with an upsurge of activity over the
past two months.

Up to 20 Iranians, most studying here legally as
students at universities, are involved in the
surveillance and two men have been asked to leave
the country as a result.

Mike Whine, the security spokesman for the Board
of Deputies of British Jews, said that the
authorities were taking the threat seriously.

"We have been aware for some time that Iranians
are monitoring synagogues and Jewish community
buildings," he said. "They have been seen taking
photographs and most synagogues are now aware of
the threat and keep a look-out.

"We understand from intelligence received that
they are photographing them as possible terrorist
targets. We don´t know for definite but there
could be a link with al-Qa´eda."

He said the activities of the Iranians had caused
considerable worry to the Jewish community. Among
the buildings photographed were synagogues in
Finchley, north London, an area that is home to
one of Britain´s largest Jewish communities.

British security officials are convinced that Iran
is sheltering members of al-Qa´eda, including one
of Osama bin Laden´s sons. Since May 2002,
communication interceptions have suggested that
al-Qa´eda is using Iranians in Europe to target
Jews.

Al-Qa´eda leaders have urged followers repeatedly
to seek out synagogues and Jewish institutions for
attack. One intercepted message, heard time and
time again, informs members: "You must have faith,
do not worry, there will be a major strike." It is
believed to have originated from a new base for
the terror group in Iran, close to the Afghan
border.

Abu Qatada, the north London Islamic cleric being
held under the Terrorism Act who has been
described as bin Laden´s "ambassador" in Europe,
also has links to Iran.

In August, it was revealed that Hadi Soleimanpour,
the former Iranian ambassador to Argentina, had
been arrested in Britain on an extradition warrant
from Buenos Aires. He is wanted in connection with
the bombing of a Jewish community centre in Buenos
Aires in 1994 which killed 85 people. The
Metropolitan Police do not think, however, that
the Iranians in Britain are planning an imminent
terrorist attack, but they remain concerned that
some outrage is being planned within the next few
months. Their intelligence has been shared with
the US State Department and the CIA.

Diplomatic relations between Britain and Iran were
restored in 1988, eight years after the infamous
six-day siege of its London embassy at Prince´s
Gate, south Kensington, was ended in dramatic
fashion by the SAS.

The Iranian embassy last week refused to comment
on the activities of its citizens.

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